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ksmith said on 2004.06.07

amen.

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Bernie Goldbach said on 2004.06.07

But the good thing is the A-Listers read you so without jumping into the fracas, you've tempered the discussions.

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donnam said on 2004.06.07

Yay! Good to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks this carry-on is a useless attempt to pull readers, and who also doesn't understand reality TV.

4
Cubiq said on 2004.06.07

I love you.

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Laika said on 2004.06.07

Piss and vinegar, that's all it is and, after all, it's mostly little boys doing the scraping, right?

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Heath said on 2004.06.07

Hooorah for the B- and C-listers! ^_^

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David Robarts said on 2004.06.07

In my regular reads, you're #3. (Following Dave Shea and Simon Willson.) Fortunately I haven't seen the kind of activity you describe in my favorite blogs (that's probably why they are my favorites). I'm glad people like you read the A- list and point the rest of us to the good stuff that they do post.

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mike said on 2004.06.15

A-list...
i'd be lucky to be on any list!

i agree though - the inside-y feel of many of those leave a bad taste...

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chaos said on 2004.07.08

I am around a R - T lister and damn proud of it

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Michael Almond said on 2004.07.24

Thank you. Hopefully this hasn't been archived yet, I hope you will read my posting anyway either way. I would share a little something with you. I am currently writing an article for an online magazine that relates to your ideas and observations (yes, and rants, god love um). I would rather not say which magazine until they have review the first draft, which I am frantically trying to finish by Monday.

In any case, this is a perfect example of what the piece is about. You call them "A-listers" and others call them "Web Gurus" or "The Bloggers." This is yet another example of a connection I have made to a set of principle used during my years working in Social Marketing, specifically social change media campaigns. This is the subject of the article.

In that field, they are referred to as “Opinion Leaders,” those who the majority look to form their opinions on important issues. In social change strategies, we targeted these individuals because they influence larger constituencies. Teachers, Religious Leaders, Editorial Staff of the NYTs, etc. Unfortunately, as you point out, in our industry their seems to be a very small number; about twenty-thirty people, almost all men as far as I can tell (and we all know who they are).

This is just one of a set of guiding principles we used to inform our strategies. They principles focus on how opinions are actually formed, changed, influenced, etc. and the relevance that has to your decision making process, how to win on issues. I been working as a Web Designer and developer for the greater part of a decade an it has been useful to look to these ideas again as they are relevant to all of us.

I am not going to write the article in this post as I have just realized I have begun to do, but if you are interested, I would like your feedback, even your permission to reference your post; positively by the way. This is particularly important because this industry's Opinion Leaders are all men, give me a break! But your point about them fighting amongst themselves is another the example I use these principles. Damn, I have to it away.

In these debates, arguments, rants, they are clearly trying to convince each other to share their opinions, beliefs, whatever. But they are totally wasting their time and speaking to exactly the people: those on opposing sides of an issue who feel just as passionately in their. We referred to them as "the unmovable". You can not change their minds, they have "decided"

I get a kick out watching them go back and forth, endlessly. The will never succeed, it is fruitless. But they are the minority and don't share the views of majority of people.

And if I give away anymore I will hate myself in the morning. I just have to finish the piece, but let me just close with a "teaser: You may be pleasantly surprised be how important those of us on the "B or C list" actually are.

Thanks again!
Michael

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Andre Bokanov said on 2004.10.04

Funny, without the advent of blogs, I haven't heard of any of these so-called authors turned designers...

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